The Philosopher Plato has Socrates ask “is it (1) pious [holy] because it is loved by the gods, or (2) loved by the gods because it is pious?”

This question is an issue today because some religious people think we can’t have a real morality and ethics unless there is a God to tell us what is right and wrong. For the atheist, right and wrong are just opinion and taste.

Does this make sense to you? In the same way, would we say we can’t judge writing as good or bad unless this is revealed by God? What other areas do we make judgments in without needing these criteria to be based on the will of God?

And, are these religious people even being biblical. In Genesis with creation things aren’t good because God declares them so, but rather God see that they are good.